28 Cymbals

If you ask 100 drummers what they like about using VST drum plug-ins, they will tell you that they love the variety of drum sounds and all that sort of stuff. If you asked them what their biggest dislike about plug-ins is, and playing them from electronic kits, it’s usually the hi hat and the cymbals which come up for most criticism.

This isn’t because the cymbals or the hi hat sound bad in any plug-in. Quite the opposite-the cymbals and hi hat in Superior Drummer 3 and Addictive Drums, and lets face it, pretty much all plug ins, sound amazingly lifelike. However, the big issue, and why it feels strange for drummers, is the actual playability of the sounds, when 'played' from pads.

The hi hat is probably the hardest instrument to mimic electronically. There’s so many little nuances and changes that we make to the hi hat as we play it - varying the pressure with our foot, moving the position of the stick slightly, or by simply changing the top or bottom cymbal.

This is very very hard to recreate, and we've got used to how electronic cymbals 'play' but they aren't the same as real acoustic cymbals. Yes, mopdern developments are pretty impressive, and the digital ride on the latest Roland kits is great to play on, but its not the same, regardless of what anyone tell you.

The crash and ride cymbals are usually much easier to mimic. But if you think about your typical ride cymbal, the sound varies minutely as the stick moves over every square centimetre of the surface of the cymbal. Some sounds are more obviously different, and some sounds are much more subtle, but you never, ever get the same sound out of a cymbal twice.

So if cymbals are difficult to recreate electronically what can we do about it?

Well, we are all fairly happy with the sound of sampled drums - thousands of drummers every day use plug-ins connected to their electronic kit to provide a drum sound for tracks and/or practice. If you turn on your typical commercial radio station, you’re probably hear sampled drum sounds from plug-ins on most of the tracks. In most commercial music nowadays, it won’t be a drummer sitting behind a five piece kit in the studio somewhere who provided the drum sounds. It will be a programmer or producer who probably replaced all the drum sounds after the event.

If you’re practising at home, playing electronic cymbals – rubber pads or low volume metal cymbals – is okay, but it’s not the real thing. I remember having lessons with my drum teacher for many years and trying to justify to myself that practising on electronic kit was okay. It wasn’t. He was teaching me how to actually play a ride cymbal, not just hit it, and how to draw the sound out of the cymbal by utilising the stick. You just can’t do that on a rubber cymbal pad.

So maybe, what we ought to do is look at this from a sensible, new direction. If we are happy with the drums sound and playing pads or drums with mesh heads and triggers on to generate them, but not cymbal pads, why don’t we just use real cymbals? After all, we have spent lots of money buying them and if we are doing a recording, why not use those real cymbals?

I remember the first time I did a recording where I used electronic drums and real cymbals and I couldn’t quite believe the realism of the finished product. By generating the drum sound from a plug-in, I had complete control over the acoustics, the drums, the effects and everything else. And to be honest, cymbals are much less influenced by the overall room they are being played in as they don’t have so much of a transient (attack) which is what highlights the acoustics of a room. So with a bit of careful thought, you can trigger drum sounds off pads, play real cymbals which you pick up with overhead microphones and blend the two together to come up with something really realistic sounding drum tracks.

Yes, we might not have the convenience of being able to change the ride cymbal sound after the recording, but surely we’ve only got used to this because we’ve been spoilt by the technology. If we actually have to get a good performance down in the first place then maybe that will encourage us to put in a bit more effort into the actual recording process.

The other thing I have found which works very well is if you use real drums with mesh heads and triggers, the sound of you hitting the mesh head, albeit quietly, and in particular the sound of you hitting the rim of the drums, either as a rimshot or accidentally, can add lots of realism to the cymbal recordings through the overhead microphones. When it’s all blended together and everything is time slipped together so that’s the sound of you hitting the pads or drums is perfectly in time with the samples then the 'accidents' can really add an extra layer of realism.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, because you’re using your cymbals and you are generating your sound using your sticks it sounds more like you.

Obviously this is nothing new. Back in the 80s electronic kits had rubbish cymbal sounds, if any at all, and so it was fairly common to see a drummer using electronic drums with real cymbals. The first time I heard it being used live was on the Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells 2 live gig at Edinburgh Castle. Ian Thomas was playing a ddrum kit with real cymbals and if I had my eyes closed I would’ve just imagined it was a real acoustic drum kit, albeit processed (as fitted the drum sound of the time).

Nowadays this is still very common. I went to see a very large show at the O2 arena in London awhile back and the drums were completely triggered (although they looked like an acoustic kit, just with mesh heads and triggers) and the cymbals were real. It sounded great, it looked great, and the front of house had maximum control over the drum sound and processing.

And this is one area that acoustic cymbals have a distinct advantage over electronic cymbals – they look so much better. Dark rubber cymbal pads look rubbish, especially if you are a drummer, and they generally come in slightly smaller sizes than we would generally use so if you are a drummer you can very quickly tell with a quick glance at the drum kit whether the drummer is using real or electronic cymbals. If they’re electronic cymbals, then it’s likely to be an electronic or triggered kit as well. So very quickly, the whole story unravels. But with real cymbals, and acoustic drums with mesh heads and triggers, it’s much harder to tell.

Yes you might be saying “I don’t want to spend money on microphones to mic my cymbals and surely it must be hard difficult?” Well, no not really. You can get a really good cymbal sound just with a pair of (not expensive) overheads in a spaced pair or XY postion (Google them if you are unsure) or if you are particularly lucky, use the Glynn Johns method for a very natural, but simple two mic cymbal recording set up, but GlynnJohns does require more space around the kit, so doesn't always work. 

Drummer generally want their hi hats mic'ed as well, but again if you listen to commercial radio you very rarely hear the hi hat and the hi hat is not an integral part of the groove to the audience - it’s mainly just a kick and the snare which make them want to dance.

So overall, what I’m saying is if you use electronics live, or for recording, and you are unhappy with electronic cymbals, either the look all the sound of them, then why not try using acoustic cymbals with your electronic drums and get the best of both worlds? 

If you’ve never thought about it before, take my word for it, it works. And it works very well with a little bit of planning and thought. And it makes you sound more like you, and unlike a wholly electronic kit, you’re getting sound back off the cymbals rather than just a dead thump, which makes for a much more pleasant playing experience.

Simon Edgoose